More Herbie & Su

I'm still tweaking the bodies, but Herbert's big melon head is under way (I may have to chip away some of the epoxy clay on the armature, ugh) and Su is ready for her hair....For these two pups, I was thinking I would use bead eyes with a liquid latex socket, added after casting in foam, but I may just go with the hollow socket thing for simplicity's sake.....I'll know more after casting/painting/costuming......it occurs to me that generally, foam latex pups don't wear added clothes, they tend to be sculpted 'in costume', but since Herbie and Su appear in various states of undress, I wanted their base puppets to be nude....


jriggity said...

cool man!

shels sculpting her puppet in the nude as well only to be dressed later .

its definately nice to have a sound under body to give those clothes somthing nice to hang on.


Sven Bonnichsen said...

I had a little moment of insight about your sculpts yesterday... I think all your female heads are *feline.*

See, Gretchin and I are fostering a cat for someone right now, and I was looking at its face... Very wide cheekbones, and a very narrow jaw.

Then I was looking at your blog and saw photos of Su, Pandora, Widow, and Jenny all together -- and they all have this same structure. Very wide cheekbones, narrow jaw.

Granted, Su is wearing a "mask," so the bone structure would have to be larger in order to go over her "real" face underneath... And Widow is supposed to be a desiccated corpse... But it still feels like I'm seeing a commonality in terms of how you sculpt heads.

I'm not entirely sure what it is that I want to suggest -- so forgive me if this doesn't quite hold together yet...

There's not a lot of flesh on the head. Sculpt a skull, and you're already close to done. (Unless you're at the level of trying to sculpt a portrait -- which is beyond me.) ...So I've got some anatomy books out, and I'm looking at skulls.

1. I think you may be giving the women too much brow ridge. My understanding is that if you're sculpting stereotypes, then you give men more brow line -- and women almost none.

2. I don't get the feeling that you sculpted the mouths with the idea in mind that there are teeth inside. If you were making a naked skull, then you could approximate the teeth by sticking a small ball into the cavity below the nose... And then you'd build up the lower jaw beneath it.

3. With Jenny, I can see a bit of the angle of the jaw... But it seems to be missing on the other women. I mean, if you touch your chin and then follow the line of your jaw back toward your ear, there's the corner where the bone turns at a 45 degree angle up to where it attaches to the rest of the skull. I'm thinking that if you built the jaw, then filled in the cheeks, it would help you capture that line.

4. I'm thinking that your zygomatic arch tends to come out to the side too far. The arch of the cheekbone is actually quite close in to the face, and then it wraps around underneath the ear. The sides of the head that are just above the ears come out a little farther than the arch at that point, I believe. (And the jaw just tucks under it, also right by the ear.

5. I think you tend to make the eye sockets too large... Which is probably part of why the brow and cheekbones are falling where they do. Again, I realize that you're doing horror stories, so having "sunken" eyes makes sense... But I have the feeling that you may also not have a grasp on the underlying structure yet.

(Yeesh -- listen to me -- not like *I* can claim to be some expert!)

I also have the feeling that you don't quite know the structure of the shoulders and the ribcage yet, either... But I think I'll leave the issue there for now.